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"Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" was originally satire because that is, um, impossible. It's now stated without irony.

"Just a few bad apples," when referring to police, conveniently ignoring the full aphorism ials actually: One bad apple *spoils the bunch.*

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@ink_slinger also "blood is thicker than water" is actually short for "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" which means that friendship formed in hardship is stronger than family bonds, the exact opposite of the shorthand

And curiosity killed the cat used to stop people asking questions is actually short for "Curiosity killed the cat, But satisfaction brought it back" which is a little more encouraging of asking questions

@wolfie @ink_slinger Yep!!! I’ve found this so much more enlightening in that, you don’t have to keep toxic family around just because they are family.

@wolfie @ink_slinger and "jack of all trades, master of none" ends with "oft better than a master of one"

@wolfie @ink_slinger "also 'blood is thicker than water' is actually short for 'The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb'"

Nope, that's most likely a modern reinterpretation.
See: english.stackexchange.com/ques

@therealraccoon @ink_slinger except the wikipedia article linked in that forum states that in the Arab world, the water in the phrase would be milk and:

"the Arabs hold that brothers in the covenant of blood are closer than brothers at a common breast; that those who have tasted each other's blood are in a surer covenant than those who have tasted the same milk together"

so, actually, maybe yes?

@wolfie @ink_slinger As far as I know and can finde, there's no credible source whatsoever that this alleged(?) arab proverb is the source of the German/English one, nor does a possible connection to the former change the meaning of the latter.

I get that people prefer the reinterpretation to the family nonsense one, but that doesn't make the claim any more credible.
I'd just get rid of the awful proverb instead of trying to assign better meaning retroactively.

@wolfie @ink_slinger As far as I know and can find, there's no credible source whatsoever that this alleged(?) arab proverb is the source of the German/English one, nor does a possible connection to the former change the meaning of the latter.

I get that people prefer the reinterpretation to the family nonsense one, but that doesn't make the claim any more credible.
I'd just get rid of the awful proverb instead of trying to assign better meaning retroactively.

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> I'd just get rid of the awful proverb instead of trying to assign better meaning retroactively

yet GNU/IMP is still named GNU/IMP

yet awful code flourishes because it's there

the proverb's lodged in humanity's psyche, we might as well subtly leverage it. completely unrelated, I'm announcing my brand new YouTube channel, "Count Your Chickens", and

(reality: humans make crap)

@wolfie @ink_slinger

"Curiosity killed the cat, But satisfaction brought it back" might not be the original version......

But anyway, I like this.

[0] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiosit

@ink_slinger this keeps bothering me because I am more familiar with the full "apples" version so I keep assuming the full version is alluded for only to get the reverse of that.

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The computer boot process is actually a shortening of 'bootstrapping' for this same reason. The difficulty in presenting a properly configured computing environment without external input was considered a herculean task with many apparently unresolvable dependency loops. It was originally intended to evoke the miracle work involved in bringing a computer to life. :)

@Irick That's actually pretty cool and seems to embrace the original intent of the phrase.

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I want to literally witness a capitalist who has fallen onto the floor, and then attempt to pull themselves back up using bootstraps.

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Every once in a while I have a good brainwave poetry-wise

One I have always liked:

Baby boomer bootstrap bromide bullshit

@ink_slinger i love this kinda stuff.
the original meaning of 'blood is thicker than water' is 'blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb' which is.... the exact opposite of what its used for now.

@ink_slinger man this reinterpretation of popular sayings made me an antifa communist #acab