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Moi, je suis contre cette réforme proposée.

@ink_slinger It is legal and reasonable for employers to have dress codes. The arguments here should be a) that there is nothing inappropriate about a teacher wearing a turban, a yarmulke or hijab at work; and b) reasonable expressions of personal religious identity are nothing to be afraid of, not even from agents of the state.

Arguments that religious belief gives employees carte blanche for clothing, or that *any* dress code is unjust are not going to change any minds.

"[...] enabling Duplessis through the Forties and Fifties to lower taxes, balance the budget and devote almost all the province’s revenue to infrastructure; roads, 3,000 schools, the autoroutes, rural electrification, and all the universities in the province except McGill."

: The Quebec separatism crisis is quietly and slowly fading | National Post
nationalpost.com/opinion/conra


@coldacid @SirMathieu I've been trying to push the tag, with corresponding , , etc.

Not many people discussing Canadian politics on Mastodon...

@fitheach
Canada has no constitutional provision for secession, which I believe is true for most countries. I've read that for secession to occur in accordance with Canadian law, it would require a constitutional amendment. But opinions vary on that point.

The 2/3 majority would be to ensure that the consensus is broad, lasting, and is significant in comparison with the total electorate (e.g., there'd be a consensus notwithstanding problems with individual votes).

@fitheach
From a moral perspective (not a legal one), I think that decisions that are more fundamental and irrevocable should require a strong consensus, not just a narrow and possibly transient velleity. Thus I do not believe the government of Québec should attempt to secede with less than a 2/3 referendum majority.

That favours my preferred outcome, to be sure.

@fitheach
If that referendum had been 50.58% "Yes", then the provincial government would have pursued secession, but such a narrow result would have resulted in a crisis of legitimacy.

The matter would have been difficult and painful enough without people denying that the results of the referendum really established anything.

@fitheach So a simple majority of those who chose to vote would be sufficient? Or do you mean a simple majority of the total number of Scottish citizens (i.e., what happens if a significant number of Scots don't vote)?

Here in Québec, we had an independence referendum in 1995, with a turnout of 93.52% and with 50.58% voting "No", and many more ballots were rejected than the margin between "Yes" and "No".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Que

@fitheach
Has there been any debate in Scotland about what level of support should be required in a referendum on independence?

(That's one of the points Québec/Canada have been arguing about for thirty years.)


Je trouve amusant que la MRC de Robert-Cliche ait été nommé d'après un ancien chef du NPD, alors que la région vote plutôt conservateur.

#qcpol #toponymie

En fait, je suis neutre par rapport à cet acte.

Pour : on ne devrait pas confondre l'état avec la religion; ça me vexe à voir un symbole de ma foi traité comme un œuvre d'art, vide de son vrai sens; ça ne reflète pas le Québec actuel.

Contre : peut-être ça rappelle aux députés qu'il y a des matières plus importantes que la politique; on devrait se souvenir que le Québec était anciennement une société croyante, et pourrait la redevenir, si voulu par ses citoyens.


L'ironie de la Loi sur la laïcité de l'état (comme je la comprends) est qu'un professeur sikh ne serait pas permis à porter un turban, mais moi (si j'étais un prof) je pourrais le porter pour la mode.

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@FssOfDeath This is not to say that Québec separatism is dead; it certainly isn't. It's just that Quebeckers have decided they will cast their votes based on other issues.

@FssOfDeath Quebec really has undergone a political realignment, but it's not recent. Over the last 15 years or so, the major debate has changed from separatism-federalism to left-right, like elsewhere in the country. Not coincidentally, at last the parking lots of downtown Montreal are becoming high-rises and the infrastructure is being improved.

The hijab/niqab issue reminds me of the Mounties-in-turbans issue in English Canada circa 1990.

Et nous devrions appuyer les autres qui veulent garder leur propres langues.

Les Cris, par exemple. autochtones.gouv.qc.ca/relatio

@lpmanchettes L'état du Québec est un créature de la loi canadienne (pas de la loi du gouvernement fédéral, bien-sûr) et ses limites et pouvoirs sont définis par cette loi.

Si on ne parle pas de la loi, mais des droits moraux, les autochtones ont un meilleur titre au grand nord que les personnes habitant environ le St-Laurent.

Dans un cas de sécession, le Québec serait divisible.

@manu Voulez-vous argumenter ces propositions ? Moi, je ne suis pas d'accord avec Mme la ministre.