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M. Grégoire @mpjgregoire

I see that Mastodon 3.0 has been released, removing OStatus support. My instance only supports OStatus, so that means as 3.0 rolls out, my connections with the rest of the ActivityPub fediverse will gradually be cut.

Au revoir, tout le monde ! À bientôt, j'espère.

@mpjgregoire I am not familiar with the implications. Would you like to explain?

@qcat Sure.

Originally, Mastodon communicated with the OStatus protocol, then it added support for the ActivityPub protocol. Now, in version 3.0, Mastodon is dropping OStatus.

The code for my instance, mastodon.club, was forked from Mastodon in the OStatus only days. Once scholar.social moves to Mastodon 3.0, I expect that it will be impossible for you to read my posts, or for me to read yours.

@mpjgregoire What is the rationale behind this? Isn't it possible for you to port your instance to the new version? Also, what made you choose a fork originally?

@qcat ActivityPub is a newer protocol, devised in part by the people who created OStatus, but as part of a formal W3C standard process.

One advantage, they say, is that direct messages have real privacy.

My instance could be upgraded, but apparently it would be difficult to port the changes over. Also the sysadmin now has two small children, so he's busy.

I picked mastodon.club a few years ago because it was relatively small, friendly and general, as well as Canadian. The community was quite nice, though some people have since moved to other instances. The differences with trunk Mastodon were small at the time.

Eventually the code of mastodon.club will be upgraded or else the users will leave it. The sysadmin is busy these days though, so I don't expect an upgrade any time soon.

@mpjgregoire The choice of an instance is something quite overwhelming in the beginning. To be honest, if i wouldn't have had a friend suggest one for me I would have given up right there.

Is you instance running a version of Mastodon prior to 1.6? Is it not possible for your instance to upgrade?

@fitheach Yes it could be upgraded, but my sysadmin ( @thurloat ) is busy, understandably so.

Yeah, of course.
If you suddenly vanish, I'll know what has happened.


@mpjgregoire @fitheach long story extra short:

we forked pre 1.0 to add some community features and make changes, kept up with latest til around 1.4-5 upstream had a major refactor on both backend and frontend that would have needed almost all features be rewritten from scratch.

we backported many security and performance patches from upstream as time went on (including some initial AP support), but can't find the time or motivation to rewrite everything from scratch.

@fitheach @mpjgregoire

Time to migrate! Thanks for all your work @thurloat 😁❤️

@thurloat Hypothetically, why not migrate to Mastodon 3.0, then someday add back any features that have disappeared?

We'll miss the "sociables" and so on, but they're nice to have, not essential to the enjoyment of Moosetodon.

@fitheach @FssOfDeath @keithzg

@thurloat Back a couple of months or so, you were thinking about how you could update Moosetodon to a newer version of Mastodon.

Do you have any plans, especially regarding schedule, that you'd be willing to share with the users of the instance?

@FssOfDeath @keithzg @fitheach

@mpjgregoire @keithzg @FssOfDeath sorry everyone, still no progress and no timeline to an upgrade to 3.0+.

my plate is overflowing these days. I can't foresee that changing in the next couple months.

@thurloat @keithzg @mpjgregoire

No problem, sir! I get it, I have so many things I want to do but never get to: it is maddening.

Keep us advised if you get the time!

I sympathise, @thurloat . I know what it's like to be busy at work, and to have important demands on your time at home; probably most of us on this instance do. We all appreciate the time and effort you've put into caring for Moosetodon and its friendly community.

That being said, in order to remain connected with the larger community, I have decided to make this a secondary account.

@FssOfDeath @keithzg

@mpjgregoire What is your new primary, if I may ask? (Mine has for a while now been @keithzg)

@mpjgregoire @keithzg @FssOfDeath i certainly don't take that personally. you deserve to be connected to the greater network. if you leave behind your new handle, I can let you know when its been done, if you're ever interested in migrating back.

@mpjgregoire @keithzg @thurloat

Hey guys! My new account is:

@thurloat this instance has been a wonderful introduction to the Fediverse and I hope to be back someday!

See you guys out there!

@mpjgregoire Aww, shucks. Guess I should fire up a Pleroma instance of my own after all, at least as a stopgap alt.

(I had been holding off in part because I like it here at mastodon.club, and in part because I was having problems with the federated service I *do* already run an instance of, Matrix. But I've since sorted that out.)

@mpjgregoire Update: I have in fact set up an instance at fediverse.keithzg.ca. Immediately noticing that there's a bunch of posts I see as my user there (@keithzg@fediverse.keithzg.ca) that I don't see here, presumably due mainly to mastodon.social being upgraded already to 3.0.

Do feel free to create an alt there yourself, if you similarly feel the need to. I cannot promise I'll be a good admin or that my instance will stick around forever, however! I'd rather stay here if possible.